what to do with and ugly engraved gun
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OP  | For me, too much engraving is similar to a gaudy metallic scrap pigment job on a beautiful sports motorcar....and gold triggers and enlays are actually tacky looking to me......(and yes, I accept some).....your opinion...... Third world dictators love engraving and gilded/argent plating to the extreme for some reason.......signifies power maybe....?.... It seems and so many shotgun lovers base the quality of a piece soley on the engraving.....?.....Is it like makeup on a hooker or not, the more the merrier......?........Does it show quality and usefulness above that of the aforementioned slice that has no engraving.....?..... Where exercise y'all draw the line.....?..... Best Regards, |
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| | Engraving can make a good gun great, engraving can brand a great gun poor---it is totally dependent on the quality and competency of the engraver. Ditto for gold--when done sparingly. |
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| | I am not in lust for anything plated in gold or with great inlays. They are pearl handled pistols to me Last edited past former colonel; 10/22/eleven 08:49 AM. Michael Dittamo |
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| | I concord with both Doug and the Colonel. I enjoy seeing when Walt Snyder posts pics of his high grade Ithacas or someone posts pictures of a high class Lefever or LC Smith. Equally long as it is well executed like the English Rose and Curlicue I recollect its fitting but its all a thing of each persons private gustatory modality. |
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| | Engraving falls into the category of "art". Every bit such, opinions will exist all over the map. I appreciate well executed engraving of nearly whatsoever style, accept a banker's taste on a ditchdigger'south budget, and and then, have few engraved guns. My taste runs toward game or game scenes appropriately matched to the gun type and approximate/caliber at manus. I don't care for the Germanic rabbit/deer scenes on a shotgun. I appreciate the complexity, craftsmanship, and labor of large fields of English language fine scroll, just it'due south like watching the mandatory "figures" portion of "figure skating"...dull. There'southward enough 'flying turnips' in my collection that I don't care to have anymore. The engraving on my Beschi 410 NID grade 4 re-create looks pretty bad to me. Heavy handed. A little gold is ok with me, just it definitely has limits with me. The Winchester pumps with the -5 pattern (no aureate) are a favorite of mine. With gold, they are non quite as attractive to me, but I all the same similar them. I've gone dorsum and forth on whether to have my 42 engraved or leave it plainly. Some of the Galazan high end Play tricks guns that we've seen with multi-color aureate ribbons and scroll all over, only leave me laughing. Last edited by Chuck H; 10/22/11 09:twoscore AM. |
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| OP | Engraving falls into the category of "art". As such, opinions will exist all over the map. I appreciate the complexity, craftsmanship, and labor of large fields of English fine scroll, only it's like watching the mandatory "figures" portion of "figure skating"...tedious. Very well said ....... +1..............................I'd leave the 42 alone Chuck....JMO... Best, |
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| | I like it well done, or not at all. No rolled, imprinted nonsense. Have mixed feelings well-nigh the acid etched work on Beretta O/U's. Relief panels, bolder roll borders, and chiseled fences are fine with me--and animals if well executed (esp. deep relief). Gilded barrel bands and matching lines on front sights seem appropriate. I don't even mind gold lines on the scope rings to match. I am glad some folks can afford to continue the arts and crafts extant. The arts take always needed patrons...Steve |
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| | I would prefer no engraving. I only have two guns engraved, an Ithaca 37 and my Sarriugarte. The Ithaca has minimal engraving from the factory. The Sarriugarte has curlicue/floral engraving, enough that I'm going to exist aggravated when I reassemble the thing to go the engraved screws merely right. I volition say that properly washed it is beautiful. Practice condom eating. Always employ a additive. |
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| OP | I like it well done, or not at all. No rolled, imprinted nonsense. Have mixed feelings about the acid etched work on Beretta O/U's. Relief panels, bolder coil borders, and chiseled fences are fine with me--and animals if well executed (esp. deep relief). Aureate barrel bands and matching lines on forepart sights seem advisable. I don't even mind gold lines on the scope rings to lucifer. I am glad some folks tin can afford to keep the craft extant. The arts take always needed patrons...Steve A couple of Browning High Grades, I'yard non sure how they practical the engraving, but information technology sure is nicely done and fairly deep and detailed very well.... an 1886 in 45-70 ane of iii,000....and a Model 71 rifle in .348......Browning made these for ii years only, 1986 and 1987....... At that place are no raised edges indicating depression forming/rolling on any of the engraving..... It has highs and lows appearing as hand cutting engraving......only I don't recall it was hand cut......any the process, it was/is a good ane..... The older Herstel Brownings, rifles and shotguns (pre-1970 and the current Herstel custom store), had very nice and non overly done hand cut engraving for many years,.....well executed IMO..... Steve, I don't know who did the Sabatti guns just I'm certain someone on here will know..... 1886 Browning High Grade 45-70 Burglarize..... Best Regards, |
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| | I like upland game scene engraving, dogs and birds together. The early Fifty.C. Smiths had some very nice engraving of dogs and by and large quail, some grouse and either woodcock or snipe. |
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| | Looks like a night at the opera but everyone has unlike tastes and that is what makes engraving and then much fun to examine and marvel at. |
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| | Calculation to the elegance of the gun. That's what I like to come across. Can't draw it all that well only I know it when I see it. Not then much a particular style or not, more just the correct amount of the right way for the gun. Oh, and did I mention? I hate those ornately carved German stocks. Have only ever seen one that looked proficient. But to each their own. Regards, James The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed desperately- the human being who tin deport a bulletin to Garcia |
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| | Every bit far equally I know this burglarize was considered the epitome of highstyle elegance at the pre WW II Shutzfests held in Deutschland. Is it over the top in todays world? I certainly think so but looking at this another style I wonder what the craftsmen who fabricated these rifles would think of the plastic laser "engraved" anodized stuff that'due south in style today? The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right. |
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| | Bad engraving can ruin even the best quality gun. Bully engraving may improve a gun merely not that much besides me. Some of the early engraving would be improve off removed with a file. Laughing dogs, flight turnips and bird with barbie doll proportions are just a real turn off. Bulino engraving and engraving that looks like a photo does not turn me on either. Less is more if washed well and more is only a waste if not done well. More guns have been ruined by bad engraving than anything other that rust or a torch. |
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| | In the latest issue of the DGJ, in that location is a commodity by Walt Synder, neat article about a fine exmaple of an Ithaca Crass. Cute engraving on the sides, top, just not and so nice on the lesser. It has scroll engraving around the eye showing a rabbit running and a cartoon like dog looking at it, with things that look like Pterodactyls flying. Sad, only I'm certain others volition agree |
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| OP | In the latest issue of the DGJ, there is a article by Walt Synder, great article about a fine exmaple of an Ithaca Crass. Beautiful engraving on the sides, top, merely non so prissy on the bottom. It has coil engraving effectually the middle showing a rabbit running and a cartoon similar dog looking at it, with things that expect like Pterodactyls flying. Sad, but I'm sure others will agree Yup, agree....... |
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| | Engraving is fine art and therefor very subjective, there is something out in that location for everyone. What I like my not appeal to others and that's only fine. The floorplate is from a rifle made for 50.C. Smith's son Burns Lyman Smith. MP Sadly Deceased as of 2/17/2014 |
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| | Too Funny Clif W!! Michael: That sure as hell isn't Rosie!! I've got some examples in an Italian engraving book that would probably be considered porno if I posted them here! Jim The 2d Amendment IS an unalienable right. |
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| | Depends on the gun.I think Merkel engraving is most never bad.Browning pigeon grade deep open scroll I like as well. |
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| | Very beautiful, Michael. What ARE those two creatures holding onto Dianna for dear life? I recollect they are whatsoever y'all want them to be, every person seems to see them differently. I've looked at many drawings of Diana trying to see if it was copied from another work but have not located this one. Other figures found on Adolph rifles were from art and literature. Something more than to look for. The rifle in question, MP Sadly Deceased every bit of ii/17/2014 |
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| | I am what I own. From my parents, the way I grew upwardly, Depression baby, it wouldn't be me to have a decorated firearm. I appreciate the engraver's skills and wouldn't knock another's gun for its exquisite form. It's what's within that counts. My Elsie Specialty 12 and Sauer 16 are engraving limits for me. Ditto everything else: abode, cars, sporting gear, boats, shipping. No matter how it's wrapped, quality is easily recognized. |
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| | My Bentley and Playfair 12 BLE ca late 1890s, not bad engraving, pretty damascus. Information technology was made in the mean solar day when boxlocks were embellished every bit nice as sidelocks. Y'all don't come across that much anymore. I have a reprint 1914 catalog that shows this gun. Only their nicest sidelock cost more than coin. Joe |
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| OP | Joe: Do you have any close up pictures of your finished Poli engraving that you lot could post, top, lesser and sides......?........Very dainty, clean and germ-free engraving job......thank you for posting....... All-time Regards, |
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